good Evening all,
I have a 3.5 x12 inch cast iron cylinder hangs below my Beatty hand pump which we use. I have it out at the moment. What do you use on them for rust inside especially . The first water is always rusty.
Thanks for any suggestions
jerry
well Cylinder
Re: well Cylinder
Most cast iron cylinders had a brass liner inside, very thin. If yours does not, then it is quite old, before they started with the brass. Only way around that is to either install a brass liner, which maybe would bring it down to closer to 3 inches or so, or change it over to a newer cylinder. We used to re-line 3 inch and 2 1/2 inch ones with new hard copper liners. Sometimes they had to be slightly bored for a thin wall copper pipe. We were saving a lot of customers dollars, untill the next time I went to buy hard copper pipe. He wanted to charge 3 times as much. I suppose it's still on the rack there.
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Re: well Cylinder
Morning,
Here is the cylinder. I have had it for 40 years and who knows how long it was in the neighbours well. I do know the family were owners of the farm since 1867 or thereabout. I am glad I used antiseize on the clean threads when I put it in the well a few years ago. Came apart easy. So I am going to clean it up. We use it often. My granddaughters water the flowers from it every time they come over. It is our source of water when the power is off too.
jerry
Here is the cylinder. I have had it for 40 years and who knows how long it was in the neighbours well. I do know the family were owners of the farm since 1867 or thereabout. I am glad I used antiseize on the clean threads when I put it in the well a few years ago. Came apart easy. So I am going to clean it up. We use it often. My granddaughters water the flowers from it every time they come over. It is our source of water when the power is off too.
jerry
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Re: well Cylinder
I think I know what is causing this but answer some questions.
Is there a weep hole below the pump in the drop pipe?
Is the water rusty right away when starting to pump?
How far is the water level below the pump?
How many pumps until it clears?
How long can the pump set between uses that the water stays clear?
Ron Stauffer
Montrose CO
Is there a weep hole below the pump in the drop pipe?
Is the water rusty right away when starting to pump?
How far is the water level below the pump?
How many pumps until it clears?
How long can the pump set between uses that the water stays clear?
Ron Stauffer
Montrose CO
Re: well Cylinder
thankyou for your interest.Ron Stauffer wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:15 pm I think I know what is causing this but answer some questions.
Is there a weep hole below the pump in the drop pipe?
Is the water rusty right away when starting to pump?
How far is the water level below the pump?
How many pumps until it clears?
How long can the pump set between uses that the water stays clear?
Ron Stauffer
Montrose CO
Yes there is a bleed hole 6 inchs above cylinder
Yes it is rusty right away
It is a dug well 3x 25 feet. maybe 6 strokes to start depending on water level. Cylinder is 3 feet below ground level. The water overflows in winter. but is not dependable in summer. It is our main source of water. When low I pump with a gas pump from 1000 feet up the road. that is where I hope to put the windmill. I have a force pump I need to rebuild. I hope it will push the water to the well but if not the gas pump will still be used and the windmill will look good from the road
The pump is our source of water when the power is off. otherwise for some flower watering that my grandaughter likes to do
jerry
Sometimes the pump is used daily , some times several days
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Re: well Cylinder
Soluble or ferrous iron is a pretty common culprit for rusty water. It exists in the water and is brought out of solution by oxygen or dis similar metals. The quick litmus test is put a gallon of clear water in a white bucket and add an ounce on bleach. If soluble iron is present, you will see brown sediment in several hours. Bleach accelerates the oxygenation process but just water will exhibit rust sediment in several days if soluble iron is present.
If it is soluble iron, you can treat the well periodically with bleach and this will reduce the iron in the water and be less rusty, Newer shallow well cylinders have a SS rod in the cylinder. You could replace with SS or wrap with Scotch 33+ tape. That cylinder is likely brass lined but if you did some coating on the interior cast ends of the cylinder that would help. The weep hole is allowing oxygen in and the oxygen brings the soluble iron out of solution
I am leaving on a work trip and will be in limited internet coverage. I would like to know what you find but my response wont be timely.
Ron
If it is soluble iron, you can treat the well periodically with bleach and this will reduce the iron in the water and be less rusty, Newer shallow well cylinders have a SS rod in the cylinder. You could replace with SS or wrap with Scotch 33+ tape. That cylinder is likely brass lined but if you did some coating on the interior cast ends of the cylinder that would help. The weep hole is allowing oxygen in and the oxygen brings the soluble iron out of solution
I am leaving on a work trip and will be in limited internet coverage. I would like to know what you find but my response wont be timely.
Ron
